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joe biden came in years ago with middle class tax force and by his own admission terribly ineffective and in my opinion offensive. but tracey said taxes are a force and did is a violation of people's rights and that's why paul ryan said growth stagnation and wealth destruction. they will up for everyone despite what the president and his cronies have you believe. >> and british lady, gen, tell mow middle class in england buried in taxes like mr. biden said we are buried here and paul ryan. >> they are buried in the moment. they are dealing with austerit yedebt reduction and so forth. biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president. >> it sounds smart because of the accent. wayne, two examples. taxes that are in place and taxes that are coming in the end of the year and alling the class and b
joe biden came in years ago with middle class tax force and by his own admission terribly ineffective and in my opinion offensive. but tracey said taxes are a force and did is a violation of people's rights and that's why paul ryan said growth stagnation and wealth destruction. they will up for everyone despite what the president and his cronies have you believe. >> and british lady, gen, tell mow middle class in england buried in taxes like mr. biden said we are buried here and paul...
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but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice? >> up to a point. there is good joe and bad joe. so joe needs to moderate his joe-ness. his strength is that i think he can come across as a little bit more of an every man than the president and he will go after paul ryan on the ryan plan and the budget that ryan and romney are running on, saying it favors the wealthy and it will cut medicare, a very popular entitlements program. you don't want joe doing his gaffe thing, getting carried away. i think he does that more often in crowd it's. >> and speeches. >> he is pretty goods in the debates and against palin last time around. >> i think there is -- it's a fascinatin
but that hasn't stopped him from giving advice to joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden, about tomorrow night? >> well, i -- you know, i think joe needs to be joe. congressman ryan is... a smart and effective speaker. but his ideas are the wrong ones. and joe understands that. >> sean: so, should vice-president biden take his boss's advice? joining us, our political panel, michael crowley, bobcu sack john mccormick. michael, joe will be joe -- is that good advice?...
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saw somebody up for the job and joe biden was joe biden. >> talk about the great recession, as if it fell out of the sky, like, oh, my goodness, where did it come from? >> i am aware that the consensus seems to be that biden was mean... rude... disrespectful. the joe biden that you saw last night is the democrat party. it is the modern democrat party, particularly the last 12 years. that's who they are. >> incredible. >> biden did exactly what was desired. in the process hurt himself and obottom aisle the vice-president is authentic. what you see is what you get. he didn't bring a bunch of political talking points like congressman ryan i think he reached a lot of americans. >> i don't think you should be laughing during a discussion about thermal nuclear war with iran. >> thank heavens we have these sanctions in place. >> however amused you are, it's about tone -- >> what do do you? >> i think he was sent on a mission because the president was just the opposite. he was very lethargic. he was just the opposite of what you saw last night from biden. >> did you get a chance to watch the
saw somebody up for the job and joe biden was joe biden. >> talk about the great recession, as if it fell out of the sky, like, oh, my goodness, where did it come from? >> i am aware that the consensus seems to be that biden was mean... rude... disrespectful. the joe biden that you saw last night is the democrat party. it is the modern democrat party, particularly the last 12 years. that's who they are. >> incredible. >> biden did exactly what was desired. in the process...
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i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney did in his debate. >> chris: there is the perception that bide season a loose cannon and a gaffe machine and i asked paul ryan about this last week and he said not in the highly visible highly structured events. he is disciplined and has been studying all of his debates. what do you expect from the vice president? >> i think that is true and if you you remember a lot of his gaffes, a, usually aren't covered by the media and b, are often sort of humorous but not damaging in the sense that he is changing policy or putting something out
i think that underestimates joe biden. what paul ryan said is true he he has been doing this for 40 years and he will be on message. he has something else, is too. barack obama felt con strained to go after mitt romney with some of the lines, 47%, bain capital. he was going to look presidential. joe biden is going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at paul ryan and paul ryan's job has to be to not only meet that and turn it but also continue to do the sort of positive message that romney...
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i think joe biden won this debate. i don't think paul yin lost it. and i thought that paul ryan held his own against someone doing this about 100 years. >> and these poll numbers are they interesting and fun to look at? >> there is taking us a while is that it takes a while to figure out, and this is to figure out what happened. i know obama campaign people are adjusting after denver paying a lot of attention to swing states. and said what are people in colorado thinking about this and people in virginia and virginia. he said issue as side he said people got a clear choice on medicare and social security and abortion and other issues. >> and there is what joe biden is doing is bucking up democrats. if independents aren't decided at this point they're probably watching a baseball game tonight. democratsed a terrible week. they've been panicked and what they needed is someone throwing a punch. i think they got that in joe biden tonight. >> there is another segment ahead. straight head there is no doubt about the obama administration did mess up on resp
i think joe biden won this debate. i don't think paul yin lost it. and i thought that paul ryan held his own against someone doing this about 100 years. >> and these poll numbers are they interesting and fun to look at? >> there is taking us a while is that it takes a while to figure out, and this is to figure out what happened. i know obama campaign people are adjusting after denver paying a lot of attention to swing states. and said what are people in colorado thinking about this...
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joe biden, did his performance maybe do him any favors? we will find out [ male announcer ] if it wasn't for a little thing called the computer, we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car insurance quote. now express lane finds your driving info with just one click, saving time to be nostalgic about the days before express lane. thank you, insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. >>> each week day hear my daily commentary the huckabee report and the mike huckabee show on radio. details at mikehuckabee .com. >> president obama's is poll numbers have been free falling since the first debate. well, did joe biden's performance help or hurt the campaign? joining me to talk about it former democratic pollster to six presidential campaigns and a fox news contributor and president of the polling company kelly ann conway. good to have both of you you her
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twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it s a terrorist attack. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there. we did not know. >> there were requests for extra security. those requests were not honored. >> they're pushing continuation of tax cuts giving an additional $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they're holding hostage a middle class tax cut because they say we won't pass and won't continue the middle class tax cut unless you give the tax cut to the super wealthy. it's time they take responsibility. >> do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> 10%. w
twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it s a...
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>> well, again i like to see joe biden be joe biden. i also love the fact that joe biden happens to be in command of the facts. joe biden has been to afghanistan, many, many times. paul ryan seems to read off a note card on it. that should scare the heck out of people heard him commit us to have american troops to do what the afghans should do. paul ryan is person i respect for having detailed, in his mind, budget but he sure hasn't told us anything about it. and he didn't do anything to dispel the pretty clear notion that is is one of most extreme members of congress. talk about what happened in the debate last night. bill: let me ask you a different way if i can. would you have liked to have seen, because i know clearly you stand by joe biden's performance last night that is plain and clear to see. >> that's right. bill: do you want to see president obama be a little more like joe biden? >> president obama and joe biden are partners who are very, very different people. that is one of the good things american people get. they get both
>> well, again i like to see joe biden be joe biden. i also love the fact that joe biden happens to be in command of the facts. joe biden has been to afghanistan, many, many times. paul ryan seems to read off a note card on it. that should scare the heck out of people heard him commit us to have american troops to do what the afghans should do. paul ryan is person i respect for having detailed, in his mind, budget but he sure hasn't told us anything about it. and he didn't do anything to...
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well, did joe biden's performance help or hurt the campaign? joining me to talk about it former democratic pollster to six presidential campaigns and a fox news contributor and president of the polling company kelly ann conway. good to have both of you you here. >> thank you. >> pat, do you think that the demeanor of joe biden, the nearing and laughing and indifference how does that resonate with voters or it doesn't? >> the vice presidential debates don't matter what happen in the campaigns. if it did we would have hat vice president benson. remember that debate. remember jack kennedy. it as place to put issues up. what biden is trying to do is energize the base. i thought for most of the debate he made points. the problem was the demeanor and style. then things like you were dealing with. 82 interruptions. it is clear from the polling that we saw from cnn that particular groups of people were not pleased with his demeanor. the most important ones to the democrats and right now for romney, women, young people and with two of the and independen
well, did joe biden's performance help or hurt the campaign? joining me to talk about it former democratic pollster to six presidential campaigns and a fox news contributor and president of the polling company kelly ann conway. good to have both of you you here. >> thank you. >> pat, do you think that the demeanor of joe biden, the nearing and laughing and indifference how does that resonate with voters or it doesn't? >> the vice presidential debates don't matter what happen...
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i think you saw joe biden last night maybe not everybody has seen joe biden over the years in debates and other places, but i felt that was the joe biden that i know. and i don't think there was any pretense. as he said, i mean what i say and i say what i mean. >> laura: middle class has been buried in the last four years. that helps the republicans. >> he had a good night. democrats are very happy. as you are well aware the republicans are pretty happy today, too. both sides got what they wanted. >> let's go to you, chris, i'm looking at some the polls. cnn did an instant poll and it showed that 48% of the people who watched thought that really paul ryan had the better of the debate. 44% biden. i think within the margin of error. it was pretty time nevertheless, let's say paul ryan had done to biden what biden did to paul ryan just on the gesturing. just on the laughing. how do you think the media today would be playing all of this? how do you think they would be reacting? i have a feeling they would say it was really disrespectful of the vice president and unbecoming a man such as p
i think you saw joe biden last night maybe not everybody has seen joe biden over the years in debates and other places, but i felt that was the joe biden that i know. and i don't think there was any pretense. as he said, i mean what i say and i say what i mean. >> laura: middle class has been buried in the last four years. that helps the republicans. >> he had a good night. democrats are very happy. as you are well aware the republicans are pretty happy today, too. both sides got...
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. >> oh, there were -- there was joe biden there also. we went do see the -- when they brought him on the airplane over there, and be nu put the coffins on the little bearers but i didn't get to see him and that bothered me a lot. >> judge jeanine: did you ask to see him, pat? >> yes, i did. but i understand i asked too late that he was already on the airplane. but the airplane -- i could look out and see the airplane, though. >> judge jeanine: it was still there. but pat did the president speak to you personally about what happened to your son? >> yes. >> judge jeanine: what did he say? >> he says we will check it out and let you know. and that is what hillary said and panetta and joe biden and susan rice and they all said the same thing and after that i heard nothing until i finally talked to the people in the media. absolutely nothing. >> judge jeanine: what did the president say to you specifically and hillary clinton and leighann leon pane. did they say it was about a film? >> susan rice was the one that told me specifically it was a
. >> oh, there were -- there was joe biden there also. we went do see the -- when they brought him on the airplane over there, and be nu put the coffins on the little bearers but i didn't get to see him and that bothered me a lot. >> judge jeanine: did you ask to see him, pat? >> yes, i did. but i understand i asked too late that he was already on the airplane. but the airplane -- i could look out and see the airplane, though. >> judge jeanine: it was still there. but...
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and you notice joe biden did not use that. he said mularkey which is another way of saying the same thing. i think they will turn off a lot of independents if they keep pushing this lier and dishonesty lying. >> the governor of pennsylvania said, instead of just going on attack, what obama really needs in the next two debates is to actually tell people what he's going to do in a second term. >> exactly. >> to say why this next four years is actually going to make your life better than the last four years. >> right. liar doesn't do that. look, liar is a cheap and easy way out of things and railroad disgusting sometimes, but its in apparently weak. you look like the weaker party. remember stop doyle, stop lying about my record, i worked in the white house with george bush. >> yeah, that was effective. >> bush lied, people died. we had liars thrown at us all the time and bush still got his war funded. he inherently makes you look week. it's not just the harshness, i think people tune that out. >> doesn't romney have to be prepare
and you notice joe biden did not use that. he said mularkey which is another way of saying the same thing. i think they will turn off a lot of independents if they keep pushing this lier and dishonesty lying. >> the governor of pennsylvania said, instead of just going on attack, what obama really needs in the next two debates is to actually tell people what he's going to do in a second term. >> exactly. >> to say why this next four years is actually going to make your life...
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biden is joe biden. he is authentic and he is real and he is straightforward and he --. jon: that was actually, that was my mistake. but i did, maybe we can go back and play that again because, you had david axelrod saying essentially congressman ryan was working off of cue cards, seeming to suggest -- let's play that bite from david axelrod. >> in terms of style, you know, joe biden is joe biden. he is authentic and he is real. and he is straightforward, and he says what he thinks and he says what he means. and he spoke from a lifetime of experience and congressman ryan basically spoke from the cue cards that he was handed in prep. i think that showed up. jon: your response? >> paul ryan knows the ins and outs of budget. knows the ins and outs of foreign policy last night like the back his hand. clearly that came across. with vice president biden we him smirking the whole time because he couldn't defend the obama campaign's policy or the obama administration's policies over the last four years. and he o
biden is joe biden. he is authentic and he is real and he is straightforward and he --. jon: that was actually, that was my mistake. but i did, maybe we can go back and play that again because, you had david axelrod saying essentially congressman ryan was working off of cue cards, seeming to suggest -- let's play that bite from david axelrod. >> in terms of style, you know, joe biden is joe biden. he is authentic and he is real. and he is straightforward, and he says what he thinks and he...
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when he thanked joe biden, biden was smirking. i thought that came across as very disrespectful and symbol symbolic of the way that joe biden handled the night. on the substance, i was struck by the same thing with respect to libbia. it seemed that vice-president was criticizing the intelligence community, in some ways, by not giving them as much information as we thought. he blamed all the false statements of the obama administration on the intelligence community and seemed to raise questions about the confidence of the intelligence community and in a discussion about iran, he said, we will know when they go to -- when they go to a break-out for the bomb. it seems to me, there is major tension between those two statements on the one hand, suggesting they are not competent enough to know what happened on the ground in libya but saying they will know for sure if iran decides to go for the bomb. >> on domestic policy, we heard joe biden do what his boss, barack obama, did not, hammer the 47% comoant that mitt romney said and was tal
when he thanked joe biden, biden was smirking. i thought that came across as very disrespectful and symbol symbolic of the way that joe biden handled the night. on the substance, i was struck by the same thing with respect to libbia. it seemed that vice-president was criticizing the intelligence community, in some ways, by not giving them as much information as we thought. he blamed all the false statements of the obama administration on the intelligence community and seemed to raise questions...
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>> i don't think president obama can come back like a joe biden. i think mitt romney needs to hold his own and continue to talk about his plan for turning the economy around and leading this nation again. there is a void of leadership in this nation and with the obama administration. i think that mitt romney needs to talk about his plan for the future. i think that obama has a lot of ground to make up but i don't believe he will do that by acting like joe biden and being school master rude combatative-type of a person. >> amy, have you seen anything this precipitous in a race and trends take a while to change and is there time for the democrats to recover. >> now we know that things can change in 24 hours. there is a potential to change again. it is a volatile and anxious and disheartened electorate. these are not happy days and people who are still uncommitted don't like either of the candidates and don't like the choices. whether they become new voters is a question for any one that is the winner. anything can happen in the debates. if somebody f
>> i don't think president obama can come back like a joe biden. i think mitt romney needs to hold his own and continue to talk about his plan for turning the economy around and leading this nation again. there is a void of leadership in this nation and with the obama administration. i think that mitt romney needs to talk about his plan for the future. i think that obama has a lot of ground to make up but i don't believe he will do that by acting like joe biden and being school master...
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much of the no cuss is on the fiery debate between joe biden and paul ryan. many are still chris sighting the vice president over his smirks and laughs and constant interruptions. take a look. >> thank heavens we have these in place. it's in spite of their opposition. >> oh, god. >> they have given 20 waivers, and all i have to point to are the results. on two occasions we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. >> look, this is a plan. by the way, the $6,400 number is misleading then and it's totally inaccurate now. this is a plan that's bipartisan. it has been credited by six other studies and even their own deputy campaign manager acknowledged that it wasn't correct. >> no, o. >> mr. vice president, i know you are under a lot of duress. [laughter] >> to make a good appearance but i think the public is enter served it we don't interrupt each other. >> were democrats, what did they think about the smushing and laughing. let's ask a former spokesperson for vermont governor howard dean. ladies, w
much of the no cuss is on the fiery debate between joe biden and paul ryan. many are still chris sighting the vice president over his smirks and laughs and constant interruptions. take a look. >> thank heavens we have these in place. it's in spite of their opposition. >> oh, god. >> they have given 20 waivers, and all i have to point to are the results. on two occasions we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love...
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joe biden was joe biden in so many ways. his demeanor was extraordinary. >> gretchen: i thought it was totally overthe top disrespectful. just speaking as a woman and i want to know the difference in the gender opinion. was this more offensive to women, men or either? maybe women have felt this more often. i could not believe how disrespectful he was and being from the midwest as paul ryan is as well there is such a thing as midwestern politeness and you go in front of me. that's what paul ryan was doing. should he had also been more aggressive or did he do the right thing in sitting back. >> brian: if people wanted strength on the democrat side they got it and conversant on every topic. but it was interesting on foreign policy. i think he showed experience. he's 69 and paul ryan is 42 years old and domestic issues. joe biden talked over ryan. and i am curious. democrats have to be heartened. i wonder about the independents and people who still haven't made up their mind. i have renewed faith? >> steve: if you miss the inter
joe biden was joe biden in so many ways. his demeanor was extraordinary. >> gretchen: i thought it was totally overthe top disrespectful. just speaking as a woman and i want to know the difference in the gender opinion. was this more offensive to women, men or either? maybe women have felt this more often. i could not believe how disrespectful he was and being from the midwest as paul ryan is as well there is such a thing as midwestern politeness and you go in front of me. that's what...
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foot-in-my--mouth, joe biden, they can read pretty well on the script. but had they go off script, they say some pretty bizarre things. >> we are reallying around a new economic patriotism rooted in the core belief that built this country, that believes that the economy grows when we have a strong and thriving middle class, and everybody who works hard as has a shot. >> you know the phrase you always use, obam and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars? guess what? yes we do n. one regard, we want to let that trillion-dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy? >> joe wasn't looking at the teleprompter. that's what happens when the teleprompter fails. joining me, charles krauthammer. you know, i remember, during the debate, walter mondale said, i'm admitting i am going to raise your taxes. that didn't work out that well, if i remember correctly, charles krauthammer? >> well, that is very true. i do believe your prompter theory. but i want to say, just to be safe, you nev
foot-in-my--mouth, joe biden, they can read pretty well on the script. but had they go off script, they say some pretty bizarre things. >> we are reallying around a new economic patriotism rooted in the core belief that built this country, that believes that the economy grows when we have a strong and thriving middle class, and everybody who works hard as has a shot. >> you know the phrase you always use, obam and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars? guess what? yes we...
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when joe biden came back and said he lost his wife and child. he separates it out not to impose his views on women, i thought it was effective. i thought it was a great question. let me say she could have slammed him for his own position i'm talking about representative ryan for his positions and what he voted for in congress the whole idea that so controversial in todd aiken ring. >> jon: next week crowley and bob schieffer follows up. the president a mitt romney will meet for the second time. you can wam it right here. next on news watch the liberal spin cycle to defend the president. >> are you saying that governor romney lied? >> plenty of people pointed out what a liar mitt romney is. >> we didn't expect an aggressively dishonest debater. >> following the president's poor performance in the first debate the obama campaign is playing defense and the media are playing along. what is in store for next week's debate? answers is next on news watch. of any small business crit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on
when joe biden came back and said he lost his wife and child. he separates it out not to impose his views on women, i thought it was effective. i thought it was a great question. let me say she could have slammed him for his own position i'm talking about representative ryan for his positions and what he voted for in congress the whole idea that so controversial in todd aiken ring. >> jon: next week crowley and bob schieffer follows up. the president a mitt romney will meet for the second...
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ann coulter. >> good morning. >> ann, was that joe biden being joe? by now voters know joe can be goofy and shoot from the hip, or was there something different in his tone that night? >> no, i think it was totally contrived and it was because liberals, they needed to gin up their own base, which is it's getting late to worry about your base. biden did everything except the al gore sigh. that he was -- that was the only move biden did have but it was so fake and obviously planned, he's a little like -- he's a little like newt gingrich in the primaries, and that is he rallied the base and somebody said he's sticking it to obama but i said we need to win an election. it's not just galvanizing the base. really, that was the effect of joe biden in the debate which is why most polls thought biden crushed ryan. one poll said biden won. the liberals were thread with it. my own focus group watching the debate last night, it was especially unpopular with the gals in the room and the polls bear that out, he reminds you of the biggest jackass boyfriend you've ev
ann coulter. >> good morning. >> ann, was that joe biden being joe? by now voters know joe can be goofy and shoot from the hip, or was there something different in his tone that night? >> no, i think it was totally contrived and it was because liberals, they needed to gin up their own base, which is it's getting late to worry about your base. biden did everything except the al gore sigh. that he was -- that was the only move biden did have but it was so fake and obviously...
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they want to see him get tough like vice president joe biden did in the p. debate. while it is also a town hall format there is a balancing act to not be too tough. take a listen. >> you will see from the president is a forceful toneonate in energetic phone that demonstrates the choice that we have is in front of us. obviously the president is going be respectful. >> reporter: now, the president still has senator john kerry who has been standing in in the mock sessions and playing the role of mitt romney on the republican side. you have senator rob portman of ohio had been on the vp short list. he didn't get that nod obviously but has been prominent inside the romney camp. he was campaigning in fact yesterday after another debate prep session in ohio. he is campaigning with mitt romney. his crowds have been growing on the stump. he has gotten some momentum after that first debate in denver. and one of governor romney's top advisors ed gillespie said no matter what adjustments the president makes heading into the second debate they still think romney has the upper ha
they want to see him get tough like vice president joe biden did in the p. debate. while it is also a town hall format there is a balancing act to not be too tough. take a listen. >> you will see from the president is a forceful toneonate in energetic phone that demonstrates the choice that we have is in front of us. obviously the president is going be respectful. >> reporter: now, the president still has senator john kerry who has been standing in in the mock sessions and playing...
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>> they say they are "disappointed" by what vice president joe biden said at the debate when was asked why the obama administration said the libya attack was the result of a protest turning violent. here is what the vice president said. >> why did that go on that week? >> said exactly what we were told by the intelligence community. the intelligence community told us that as they learned more facts about exactly what happened they change their assessment. >> general hayden and former secretary chertoff take issue with that and say in a statement that "it is clear that any failure was not on the part of the intelligence community but on the part of white house decisionmakers who should have listened to and acted on available intelligence." the white house counters that the administration had "no actionable intelligence suggesting there would be an attack at that benghazi, libya facility." harris? >> among the growing criticisms for the white house one republican member of congress says the white house should have known our facilities in libya needed more security. >> utah representative
>> they say they are "disappointed" by what vice president joe biden said at the debate when was asked why the obama administration said the libya attack was the result of a protest turning violent. here is what the vice president said. >> why did that go on that week? >> said exactly what we were told by the intelligence community. the intelligence community told us that as they learned more facts about exactly what happened they change their assessment. >>...
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i guess there is a lot of pressure on joe biden. everyone says it doesn't matter, like they told us it didn't matter last week. the only way to stop the momentum and the punishing polls that are coming the president's way is to go ahead and answer for the president what the president didn't do last week. the vice president has got to come out and go after paul ryan as if he's mitt romney. he's got to be able to answer these questions. the problem is you have probably one of the strongest debaters on the republican party and almost everyone agrees. even people like bowles and senator simpson have come out and said this guy is unbelievable. you're going to ask joined, who had a -- joe biden, who has had a bad a month as any, to be decks truss on his feet. >> steve: remember with sarah palin, he was affable. >> brian: because it was sarah palin. he's going to be blue collar joe biden. >> steve: joe beer can. >> brian: not the gentle one. >> gretchen: it is a fine line between being overly aggressive which is the role of the vice presid
i guess there is a lot of pressure on joe biden. everyone says it doesn't matter, like they told us it didn't matter last week. the only way to stop the momentum and the punishing polls that are coming the president's way is to go ahead and answer for the president what the president didn't do last week. the vice president has got to come out and go after paul ryan as if he's mitt romney. he's got to be able to answer these questions. the problem is you have probably one of the strongest...
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it is joe biden being joe biden. and that perhaps was not ideal. i think if you were listening to this on the radio which, of course, not many people were it was probably a different biden performance. i think they were fine with it overall because he got a lot of his points across. >> chris: moved the needle at all or a nonevent? >> a nonevent. gave the president a few days to have democrats stop complaining about him. i think we are not talking about this very much. i mean it is a forward looking thing and the vice presidential candidates are the vice presidential candidates. >> chris: laura, a quick last word. >> most people will remember one thing out of the of that debate. the smirking and mugging to the camera and interrupting. regular people who aren't all that political say he is the vice president of the united states and is that the best you can do. a lot of them in their lives aren't laughing very much. they are struggling. i think it looked unserious and immature and i think that is a lasting image. >> chris: when we come back the deadl
it is joe biden being joe biden. and that perhaps was not ideal. i think if you were listening to this on the radio which, of course, not many people were it was probably a different biden performance. i think they were fine with it overall because he got a lot of his points across. >> chris: moved the needle at all or a nonevent? >> a nonevent. gave the president a few days to have democrats stop complaining about him. i think we are not talking about this very much. i mean it is a...
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maybe he ought to lend it to joe biden on thursday. this is a phenomenon that conservative african-americans and friends of mine, people i don't know, i don't know stacey dash -- if you are an african-american, you are a conservative, it is free rein to call you any name you want to call somebody. the silence from the left -- why? the same left that wants to use racism, have used the word chicago now. why the silence? it's deafening. >> look, i don't begrudge cirimele heredia right to-- >>> i didn't ask that you question. why don't -- >> here's -- i think it's a culture of lack of intolerance and respect across the board. i get the same email when is i come on this show. people who say, you know, die, you socialist "b" or "n" word. >> sean: i don't doubt it -- but there is a difference. conservative african-americans are excoriated and it seems to be acceptable, in this politically correct world. >> i don't think it's acceptable at all. >> sean: it's tolerated. >> no, it is not tolerated. >> [overlapping dialogue] >> i think they are i
maybe he ought to lend it to joe biden on thursday. this is a phenomenon that conservative african-americans and friends of mine, people i don't know, i don't know stacey dash -- if you are an african-american, you are a conservative, it is free rein to call you any name you want to call somebody. the silence from the left -- why? the same left that wants to use racism, have used the word chicago now. why the silence? it's deafening. >> look, i don't begrudge cirimele heredia right to--...
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they will remember joe biden's mannerisms . michael goodwin said he was laughing in the begin angry in the end and it was not clear if his medication is wearing off. >> if you like joe biden you liked it. and if you didn't you thought it was a bore. what about the people in the middle? >> it was not the interruptions only but the condescending manner that turned off the voterss and thea may haunt the ticket later on >> do you think paul ryan rose to the presidential level on foreign policy? >> he did. look that a bit of a mixed performance at times. he scored heavily talking about libya and benghazi in the beginning and talking about american projecting its image in the world and some thought it was his most effective lines of the entire debate. i think there was less of a good response on syria and iran to a certain degree and the question isid whether or not biden's performance was over the top and did that matter. people were having a hard time paying attention to anything but joe biden. >> paul, it is supposed to be a debat
they will remember joe biden's mannerisms . michael goodwin said he was laughing in the begin angry in the end and it was not clear if his medication is wearing off. >> if you like joe biden you liked it. and if you didn't you thought it was a bore. what about the people in the middle? >> it was not the interruptions only but the condescending manner that turned off the voterss and thea may haunt the ticket later on >> do you think paul ryan rose to the presidential level on...
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so look for joe biden to push that point tonight. paul ryan has made clear he sees big differences from the vice president. he's going to hit those. take a listen to this. >> what i'm excited about is we get to offer the american people a very clear choice. joe biden has been on this stage before. he's been on these big stages. it's my first time of the what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. >> his first time, you can see him trying to lower expectations. i'm told that paul ryan had nine 90 minute prep sessions. gives you an idea of how intensively each side prepared. >> shep: nine of them, wow. ed henry live at center college. thanks. let's bring in chris wallace. chris, nine prep sessions. i don't know, you could overprepare, can't you? >> yeah, you can. but one thing that i found out today, i find astonishing, joe biden has been in the witness protection program. do you know that he has not done an interview on national television since last may when he jumped the gun on the president and announced in eff
so look for joe biden to push that point tonight. paul ryan has made clear he sees big differences from the vice president. he's going to hit those. take a listen to this. >> what i'm excited about is we get to offer the american people a very clear choice. joe biden has been on this stage before. he's been on these big stages. it's my first time of the what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. >> his first time, you can see him trying to lower expectations....
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they are fielding a lot of questions after joe biden said we were not told they wanted more security in libya. it is handled by security personnel at the state department. so that i think is very clear if you look at it in context of what the vice-president responded to. to this day we don't have a complete picture. we do not have all of the answers. no one in this administration has ever claimed otherwise. but one republican house member who returned from a trip to libya said the obama administration should have known that our facilities needed more security. >> good leadership and a good president saying my goodness we were bombed in libya twice and what did we do to improve yuter there. not just sit back and wait and see. >> the administration had no objectionable intelience and suggesting an attack in the benghazi facility on 9/11. >> molly, thank you. mr. chairman, i would like to have another hearing where we ask ambassador rice under oath who told you what, and when? you are blaming the intelligence committee you come before the intelligence and tell us who told you it was a v
they are fielding a lot of questions after joe biden said we were not told they wanted more security in libya. it is handled by security personnel at the state department. so that i think is very clear if you look at it in context of what the vice-president responded to. to this day we don't have a complete picture. we do not have all of the answers. no one in this administration has ever claimed otherwise. but one republican house member who returned from a trip to libya said the obama...
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paul ryan, for the most part, maintaining his cool, not interrupting joe biden, but joe biden, doing what we saw mitt romney doing, always getting the last word, making sure that no point went un-responded to, paul ryan looking more respectful, but perhaps in the minds of some viewers, more weak. we will find out. let's bring in the whiter for the weekly standard, steve hayes and former campaign manager, joe trippi. we were discussing whether joe biden was having an al gore moment, going to far with the smirking. joe? >> i think he had a very strong debate. but was diminished, i thought, personally, was diminished by the smirking. i think, look, he surprised me on how aggressive he was and undefensive on the economy, bringing up the 47%. i was very surprised though about how strong ryan was on foreign policy. it's going to be interesting how this plays out because i think, i think women were up for grabbed here. i think biden really scored points. but the last thing we need is another ground war in the middle-east. there were different issues where he really pushed hard. but i don't
paul ryan, for the most part, maintaining his cool, not interrupting joe biden, but joe biden, doing what we saw mitt romney doing, always getting the last word, making sure that no point went un-responded to, paul ryan looking more respectful, but perhaps in the minds of some viewers, more weak. we will find out. let's bring in the whiter for the weekly standard, steve hayes and former campaign manager, joe trippi. we were discussing whether joe biden was having an al gore moment, going to far...
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he has a very able guy playing joe biden in the debate prep and, at the same time, joe biden has been hunkered down for six days preparing for the debate with the role of ryan played by chris van hollen who happens to know ryan very well. can biden keep his cool? that is the question. >>eric: what is the sense, at least among, or need the beltway, you people there, not necessarily the media, what is the sense? even? leaning to paul ryan? >> in this debate, yes, most people are expecting paul ryan to do well in the debate if not outright win it. that is my expectation but i think that the media is itching to write an obama come back narrative story. if joe biden doesn't collapse on stage, that will be seen --. >>eric: they said the same thing about president obama, all he has to do is show up. and that was a different story. thank you, guy. >> of course, neil cavuto and his team will be headed to the debate in kentucky on thursday. don't miss all of the pre- and post-debate coverage. special coverage will start right here on fox at 4:00 p.m. on "your world," and then at 8:00 p.m. kicki
he has a very able guy playing joe biden in the debate prep and, at the same time, joe biden has been hunkered down for six days preparing for the debate with the role of ryan played by chris van hollen who happens to know ryan very well. can biden keep his cool? that is the question. >>eric: what is the sense, at least among, or need the beltway, you people there, not necessarily the media, what is the sense? even? leaning to paul ryan? >> in this debate, yes, most people are...
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joe biden is very experienced and paul ryan is very smart. anyway, larry, thanks so much for being with us this evening. that's it for us tonight. thanks for joining us. see you next
joe biden is very experienced and paul ryan is very smart. anyway, larry, thanks so much for being with us this evening. that's it for us tonight. thanks for joining us. see you next
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. >> the debate between vice-president joe biden and congressman paul ryan is set to start in just seconds. i'm bret baier, live inside the debate hall. >> i'm megyn kelly inside the spin room, after the debate, to try to convince you that their side won. team obottomma was noticeibly absent after a less than stellar response from president obama. >> the strategy for vice-president biden is to drive a wedge in between paul ryan and governor romney, to get in between the policy positions so that, essentially, they're setting up vice-president biden would be setting up his boss before the next debate. in other words, to put governor romney back on his heels before that town hall debate in new york. >> one of the dynamics we will be watching is the considerable age difference, between the two men, about 30 years. we talked about how when vice-president biden had already gotten married and graduated from college and finished law school, that's when paul ryan was born. so we will see how age and the difference plays in this debate tonight, as we watch things about to get underway, here in danvi
. >> the debate between vice-president joe biden and congressman paul ryan is set to start in just seconds. i'm bret baier, live inside the debate hall. >> i'm megyn kelly inside the spin room, after the debate, to try to convince you that their side won. team obottomma was noticeibly absent after a less than stellar response from president obama. >> the strategy for vice-president biden is to drive a wedge in between paul ryan and governor romney, to get in between the policy...
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. >> i think that was the great opening, great failure of joe biden in this debate. not only did he not improve what was a tenuous and tough contradictory story of the administration on what they knew about what happened in benghazi and when they knew it, he made it much worse. he is now accomplished other minor things in the debate, i suspect by the end of this weekend, main take-away from the debate could well be that benghazi was worse than we thought in terms of the incompetence of the administration and deception by the administration after the murder of the ambassador and the other americans. >> it seems like it's permeated the national consciousness. "new york times" saying it should have been on a-1. a lot of people talking about it. it seem like it's gotten the point of wait a second, what is the deal here? >> this is finally getting people's attention. last night, biden saying something that was obviously not true. anybody who is paying attention, he could i guess, depend what the meaning of "we" is because he is saying we didn't know. to me it seems he was
. >> i think that was the great opening, great failure of joe biden in this debate. not only did he not improve what was a tenuous and tough contradictory story of the administration on what they knew about what happened in benghazi and when they knew it, he made it much worse. he is now accomplished other minor things in the debate, i suspect by the end of this weekend, main take-away from the debate could well be that benghazi was worse than we thought in terms of the incompetence of...
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for him to co- opt it for crap like that, to be the cool guy in the room, i've had it with joe biden! >> bill: we were he were going to do warren and brown, we'll put that off for next week 'cause i didn't want to interrupt miller describing the vice president and his strengths and weaknesses, although the strengths kind of eluded me in that monologue. did i miss it? >> like i said, billy, you're often tough on the defenders on this show and you're more -- you give more room to the other people. i made my point the best i could. i'm sorry if you find it lacking. >> bill: no, no, no. not me, miller. because i don't want you to direct your ire at me. nothing lacking. >> listen, they ought to replace elizabeth warren up there with somebody competent in the boston area like bobby valentine. [ laughter ] >> bill: the departed manager of the red sox. and miller and i would like to you know, the tickets are available, but just two bold or fresher shows. all the other ones sold out. saturday, november 24, houston, texas. saturday, december 8, salt lake city, utah. information on bill billorei
for him to co- opt it for crap like that, to be the cool guy in the room, i've had it with joe biden! >> bill: we were he were going to do warren and brown, we'll put that off for next week 'cause i didn't want to interrupt miller describing the vice president and his strengths and weaknesses, although the strengths kind of eluded me in that monologue. did i miss it? >> like i said, billy, you're often tough on the defenders on this show and you're more -- you give more room to the...
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i don't want paul ryan to underestimate joe biden. and ryan has to not sound like a policy wonk. and he broke down the issues in laymen's terms that people can understand. ryan at least he passed a budget and you and i both know that washington d.c. is not democrat and republican, it's people working together and harry reid hasn't passed one. socce so, i think with the debate, that paul ryan is more prepared than the administration. >> jamie: doug, what impact does the jobs report of the last week. i've heard it interpreted 42 different ways, for democrats, how can they use it and what do they need to overcome in the latest numbers? >> at the very least, jamie, the jobs report says that the argument that mitt romney was making about the economy and president obama has to be at least some point attenuated, meaning that bottom line, with unemployment going below 8% for the first time since the start of the administration in '09, the obama administration can make the case that some of their policies have produced some results. given the debate results on tuesday night, this is a pot
i don't want paul ryan to underestimate joe biden. and ryan has to not sound like a policy wonk. and he broke down the issues in laymen's terms that people can understand. ryan at least he passed a budget and you and i both know that washington d.c. is not democrat and republican, it's people working together and harry reid hasn't passed one. socce so, i think with the debate, that paul ryan is more prepared than the administration. >> jamie: doug, what impact does the jobs report of the...